Its officially over

The Los Angeles City Council has voted to end the Red Light Camera program this Sunday.  The Council found that the program was operating at a loss because only 60% of those ticketed actually paid the fines.  The fine were voluntary so the city did not have much power to enforce them.  So what does that mean to those that paid the fines – can we get a refund?  The answer is no because when we paid those fines, must of us admitted to the violations and then tendered our payments.  So you are out of luck if you paid your fine and now what a refund.  For those of you who did not pay you got luck but that may not stop the collection agency from contacting you.

End to redlight camera

It looks like Los Angeles will be ending its being its experiment with the use of cameras at intersections to issue tickets for redlight violations.  Those who recently received such a ticket will not have to go to court but they will continue to receive telephone calls and letters from collection agency.

The interesting thing to ask is if you do not pay your ticket if the unpaid ticket will show up on your credit records since it is going to collections.  I guess we will soon find out once the legislature finalize everything.

Red Light Less Revenue

The cash strapped Los Angeles county has recently noticed that their red light camera program is not generating the revenue that it was originally projected.

The photo enforcement program, which catches tens of thousands of violators annually, appears to be generating about $3.8 million a year in traffic ticket revenue, said Senior Administrative Analyst Matt Crawford. That is millions less than some previous police department estimates, and roughly what the program costs, mostly for fees paid to a private contractor that supplies and operates the camera systems.

The city’s red-light camera program, one of the largest in the nation, has drawn praise from supporters who say it helps efficiently police dangerous intersections, discourages red-light running and frees up patrol officers for other duties. Critics contend the safety benefits are mixed, at best, and the cameras mainly are revenue producing tools for private vendors and state and local governments.

Recent Los Angeles Police Department estimates indicated the cameras produced several million dollars in net revenue in recent years. But those figures were based on the number of citations issued via cameras, multiplied by the city’s potential share of penalties, officials say.

Further analysis has shown the actual revenue the city collects is greatly reduced by, among other things, motorists failing to pay tickets quickly, fines being reduced by judges, and the growing numbers of drivers doing community service in lieu of paying ticket fees that can top $500.

The downsized cash-flow estimates come at a time when the city is considering doubling the number of intersections covered by cameras and putting the program out to a new round of bidding by contractors. How the latest revenue and cost estimates may affect that effort is not yet clear.

Zine, a former LAPD traffic cop, said the cameras cannot add to the city’s budget woes. And, he said, officials need to carefully examine whether the systems are producing significant safety benefits.

A new police department report argues that is the case. Serious injury accidents and potentially dangerous crashes involving red-light running declined at intersections where cameras were activated, the report says. And while five deaths were attributed to red-light violations at the intersections from 2004 through 2006, no such fatalities have been reported since the cameras were activated, the report says.

Photo enforcement “is basically doing what it’s supposed to,” said Lt. Ron Katona.

However, the study’s data presents a complex picture. Comparing the six months before as well as after camera-equipped intersections were activated, total accidents increased 5%. That figure is misleading, the report says, because many incidents were caused by pedestrians, occurred on private property or mid-block or were otherwise not relevant to the photo enforcement program.

Accidents that were deemed to be red-light related dropped 9% across the studied intersections, the report says. Yet at more than a third of the crossings, those accidents increased.

Studies elsewhere have found rear end collisions, which tend to be less serious than broadside collisions caused by red-light violations, increase with photo enforcement because drivers make panic stops to avoid getting tickets.

In Los Angeles, red-light related rear end crashes remained flat at the intersections, the study found, although total rear end accidents rose about 40%.

Zine said his committee would delve deeper into the accident data. But even using the LAPD’s criteria, a 9% reduction in accidents is disappointing, he said. “It doesn’t seem that significant…you should be in the double digits” of 20% to 40% accident reductions, he said.

Camera Ticket

Here are the steps that you need to do when you get a red light camera ticket:

1. Take this very seriously because it is a criminal violation if you ignore it.

2. Verify if the ticket is real or not. Go to the court’s website and see if the ticket shows up. There are alot of scams lately trying to solicit personal information through bogus ticket scams. If the ticket shows up on the court’s website then you know it is real and it needs to be dealt with.

3. Camera tickets come with two photos. One of your license plate and one of the driver. These photos are the evidence for your conviction. Check if the photo of your license plate matches correctly. Then see if the photo is you are not. If the photo of the driver is not you then you can ask the court to dismiss the charges. You will have to go to court to show it is not you to get it dismiss.

If it is questionable whether you photo is you or not, you should try to fight it and ask the court to dismiss it. It will be up to the court because there were no witness at the scene of the incident.

If the photo is you then you will need to fight the ticket on technical grounds.

4. Read and learn the vehicle statues in your state regarding red light camera. Most state require that there are warning signs within 300 yards of the intersection that utilize this technology. If the sign are missing, damaged or otherwise fail to notify a driver then your ticket can get dismiss. But you will need to visit the location and take pictures if the sign is lacking. Keep a record of the date of photos and let the court know how close it was to the date of your alleged violation.

5. In California, the police is required to mail your ticket within 15 days of the incident. The ticket must also be signed by a law enforcement officer, include the physical address and phone number of the court. If your ticket is lacking any of these things you can argue that the ticket is not valid.